Tim Kring said the other day that the upcoming season finale will introduce new characters that will become central to the story in the second season. “There are several new characters coming in the immediate future,” Kring said. “The idea of the show from the start was always to basically honor the origin story of the first sort of blush and discovery of these powers. And so, in order to do that, new characters will have to be cycled into the show. And by extension, older characters will cycle out of the show.”
By this logic, where the first season was called “Volume One: Genesis,” the second season will be called “Volume Two: Generations.”
“The idea of multiple generations has started to crop up on the show,” Kring said. “And in the second season we will deal with that more, hence the title, ‘Generations.’ … The idea was that we wanted to make it easy for viewers to be able to come on in the second season. And we thought if we wrapped the show too tightly around itself, so that you had to watch 23 episodes before, It would be harder for a new viewer to find the show. And we always want to be a show that has the barrier of entry low enough so that new viewers can join if they want.”
Kring confirmed that the season will have a cliffhanger ending, but one that will be more intreging then frusterating….he hopes “No, I think it’ll be intriguing more than frustrating,” he said. “The idea was to end one idea of the show, one story, and then slingshot you into the next season.” (via Sci Fi Wire)
I like Charles Deveaux’s comment to Peter. “There always has to be a good.” Was he the good to the mystery man’s evil. Obviously he was originally on the same team as Linderman and Ms Petrelli. He seems to sense a kindred ability to lead and to love in Peter. Love that whole sequence. He also said that Peter brought himself there. I wish peter would go ahead and get a grip on his powers, but it is his inability to do this that keeps him from growing too powerful to stay on the show. Good idea then.
I think sylar is dead, but that whatever took him down into the sewer will assume control of his body. Classic way to keep the actor on the show,and somewhat use the sylar character, without having to resolve the whole exploding thing for him.
I was also a little disappointed with the “showdown” between Peter and Sylar. I thought it would be much more exciting.
I really hope they don’t just leave characters in the second season. The first time I read Tim Kring’s statement that that was his plan for the show, my heart sank. I watch this show because I like the characters. They’ve spent so much time building the characters’ personalities, just to use them one season and leave their stories? To me, that’s really…stupid. I love the characters and I’d definitely stop watching if they just leave their stories. I hope they don’t do that.
Disappointing ending, but there os still hte possibility that Peter and Nathan may not be dead, being that Peter may regenerate in some other part of the world (and appear in a few episodes later and Nathan may have flown to a certain point with his exploding brother.TIM KRING – piece of advice – DON’T CHANGE THE CHARACTERS !! we’ve gotten used to them !! YOUR RATINGS will drop !
Great shot, great finale!
i just want to know when does Volume 2 start on TV
HOW CAN YA’LL SAY NATHAN ISNT DEAD. FORGET ABOUT THE SUPERSONIC SPEED. DON YOU KNOW HOW HOT IT IS!!!!! RADIOACTIVE NOT JUST FIRE. Now that i’ve calmed down the season finale was disapotintng i believe they need to team up with the writers of Prison break, cliff hanger wasn’t all that. The bomb should have gone off the fact that it didn’t contradicts the whole theory that the future can’t be changed the universe always unravels and thats how it is supposed to be. I think they really settled in the last episode and it was not up to par at all. I wonder how they will keep ratings for next season. I hate it when shows always feel they have to have a happy ending like when i watched AlPacino’s heat it was very obvious Robert Deniro had the shot.
I think that the man that molly is referring to is actually Sylars father. His mother had no power so he had to get it from someone and they never really talked about Sylars father in volume one which leaves him available for volume 2.
“Then the punches from Peter, and then can’t stop Hiro from running 10 steps toward him and stabbing him? What’s with that? Its like Sylar wanted to be beaten. I don’t get it.”
hi i quote from someone post earlier..i think sylar didnt notice hiro,because hiro is way more agile than sylar..
and for the part peter beat sylar,at the time peter already absorbed nicky power (super strength) ,i wonder if the power also bring split personality to peter.
cant wait for volume two,curious to know who is the villain and who peter mother,linderman n charles work for..maybe he is the one molly mention..
I think the ending was good and the exchange btween Nathan and Peter was awesome….Everyone who is asking that the bomb went off and sayin leave the characters the same is contradicting themselves….If the bomb goes off DL, Nikki, Micah, Molly, Bennet,Candice, Nathan, Sylar, Suresh, Ms. PAtrelli would all be dead….Nathan Dead Peter alive Next season is gonna be really good I just hope they dont lose all the great story lines from this yr
I think the possibility of someone taking over sylars powers and just str8 up evil for no reason is a very good possibility
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN THE NEW EPISODES AIR????
It’s hard to say who’s dead and who’s alive. The actors that play Peter, Sylar AND Nathan have all been signed for season 2. Similarly, reports indicate that “all main characters” are signed to appear in season 2. This indicates that we’re going to see the faces we’ve come to love again (at least the ones that are still alive). It seems the plan is to rotate them in and out as is most appropriate for the story, and not season-by-season. If someone needs to die to propel the story, then you’ll have to say goodbye. In most cases, however, there are a lot of potential variants to keep characters alive. Especially since Hiro can mess with time/space and has a desire to be the hero.
However, if the plan for next season is to expand upon the first season by showing events post and prior Season 1, then we don’t necessarily know if the characters will be playing older/younger/present versions of themselves.
Moving on, I’d like to put my two cents in on the people who have listed their complaints about the finale
I’d like to start with Nathan. The heroism Nathan displays wasn’t so much that he was giving up his physical life to save the world. He was giving up his opportunity to gain unrivaled power. We’re talking about the man who was steeling himself to lead the world through this disaster and become the president. He was ready to send his daughter away and let his brother kill millions of people to gain this power, and he gave all of that up for the love of his brother and daughter. That is why nathan can come back next season and still be an interesting character. Now we get to see what happens to a man who could have ruled the world and chose not to. There’s also the strong conflict that grows between the amount of public attention that nathan receives as a political office holder and his powers.
Also, don’t forget about his wife mentioning that she felt silly to still be sitting in the wheelchair, even though she could walk, so obviously something more is going on there too (perhaps it was just Linderman, though, and that arc is already ended).
Toss in Mom’s involvement with the “first group of heroes,” Claire’s story (especially with the pyrokinetic mother), and any number of other potentials, and the Petrelli family is ripe with possible season 2 material. I get the feeling that Peter is more or less the Kevin Bacon of superheroes. Everyone will be linked to him in some fashion.
As for why Peter didn’t fly himself up there.. he says it plain as day in the show “I’ve lost control, I can’t do anything.” This is why someone else had to put him down. As to why it had to be a permanent sort of death, watch the episode again and look at the scene where he first loses control and passes out (right before he appears back on the rooftop from the earlier part of the season). He’s unconsious, and his hands are still glowing.
While he may not have nuked in such a state, it clearly indicates that the man does not have any control over Ted’s powers. In fact, if you’ll remember back earlier in the season, Ted had to spend a lot of time out in the wilderness working it out for himself. As someone mentioned above, Peter might have been able to stop it that time, but if he didn’t go off then, he would have later.
Now onto the really complicated stuff: The final fight with Sylar. First of all, we have to accept that anything we saw in the future was not concrete. We were told Ando would be killed by Sylar, and Hiro stopped that. Future Hiro also told Present Hiro that saving the cheerleader was not enough… that Sylar had to be killed for the future to change. This is what led Hiro ultimately to his father for training. Hiro receives this training after his first encounter with Sylar, if you’ll remember, and when Sylar finds Issac’s 9th wonders comic book, he laughs that Hiro wasn’t able to kill him before, and won’t be able to now. He essentially brushes it off as a distraction.
Most importantly, however, is Sylar’s development to the final battle. All along, he’s been maneuvering such that he would become the most powerful mutant on the planet. In a twisted darwinian philosophy, with some bits of Highlander thrown in for good measure, Sylar’s plan was to kill the others and take their powers. Peter plays a wonderful counter balance to Sylar by wanting to keep them all alive and still being able to gain powers as fast as Sylar.
However, Sylar gets a hold of Issac, and learns to paint the future. This leads to him seeing his face off against Peter, and learning that Peter is, in fact, the bomb. This upsets Sylar as his conversation with Mohinder reveals to us that Sylar has no ill will toward regular humans (at least the ones that don’t interfere with his plans). In fact, we find that Sylar actually wants to avoid the destruction of all these people, and thinks it’s a bad thing (”what would I have to gain?” and “they’re just innocents”.)
So, now we’re at the final battle, and Peter and Sylar are facing off against each other. Parkman got what he deserved for rushing into the deal, despite being told he’d be killed (I’m not particuarly fond of parkman, and those weight watcher commercials they air in the middle of the episodes completely ruined what part of the character there was to like…).
However, Parkman and DL are still alive at the end of the episode, so we probably don’t have to worry too much about them. Niki gets involved to protect her family, and ends up giving Peter super strength, which is how he gives Sylar the beat down. All pretty obvious, right?
here’s the big question a lot of people seem to have trouble grasping… if Sylar can stop bullets in the middle of a fight, why can’t he stop Hiro from stabbing him? For starters, he didn’t believe Hiro could stab him.. as I mentioned earlier, he laughed at Ando and called Hiro a silly little man. He probably wasn’t too worried about the whole thing to begin with. Secondly, Hiro had just finished training with his father, which was initiated for the sole purpose of enabling him to kill Sylar (I think the quote was something to the effect of “to slay the dragon, you must be able to cut out your own heart.”). Third, Sylar has seen his own death already. Perhaps he knew he would be drug to the sewers, or perhaps he knew there was no avoiding the wound. Finally, Hiro has the power to alter the flow of the time/space stream. We don’t necessarily need to see the special effects every time, and it reduces the production costs to leave some scenes ambiguous, but if it really comes down to needing an explanation, it can always be said that Hiro slowed time long enough to stab Sylar. After all, we saw only minutes before, when Hiro saves Ando, that his “trick” is faster than Sylar’s
Now, people are wondering, what happens to everyone? Well, as I mentioned at the very beginning, all three of the actors in question have signed up for season 2, so even if any of them did die in the last episode, we’ll still see their faces again. As I described above, Nathan doesn’t have to be dead to be an enjoyable character.. we can all comiserate with him over the loss of his goal to be President and enjoy with him the releif he shall get by no longer being Lindermann’s puppet.
We know Peter’s not dead… he’s got regen. we saw from 5 years gone that even if the bomb went off as it was prophesized to, that he’d survive and live on.
As for Sylar.. There are a few clues that may lead us to understand what’s happening to him. I think the most vital clue is his death scene. We watch a quick montage of scenes flash across his eyes as he uses Issac’s power for the last time, and those flashes end with him lying on the ground exactly as he is. Since Issac’s power only reveals the future, this should indicate that Sylar’s future ends at this point.
There is another scene in the episode where he uses Issac’s power, and similar scenes flash across his eyes, but it flashed too fast for me to see if the same death scene appears there, as well. Similarly, Issac and Sylar both seem to know that Sylar will die during the fight scene. This allows Issac to accept his death at the hands of Sylar, and upsets Sylar (resulting in him using his telekenetic powers to slash the painting of Peter flying). This sort of confirms that Sylar knows he’s going to die. In a way similar to Issac’s acceptance, perhaps Sylar goes to the fight to find his death.
And the super big question… what happens to his body? Well… Let’s leave that one open for season 2… but we do know the actor has signed on again, so he’ll still be around in some form or another.
Hopefully, this gives some of you a new way to look at the events of the last episode of Season 1, and sheds some light on why things were done the way they were.
WELL I AM FRUSTRATED, KRING! THIS WAS THE WORST CLIFFHANGER I HAVE EVER SEEN – NOW WE ALL HAVE TO WAIT FOR SEASON 2…REMINDS ME OF BUFFY, CHARMED…SUPERNATURAL, GHOST WHISPERER ALL IN ONE…I HATE CLIFFHANGERS
Okay- i loved the season finale..but yeah it was a cliffhanger…but i think that the one molly was talking about…is claire’s dad. since she’s the tracking system, he’ll always know where she is if she’s using her powers
man, the end was just so simple. and then it ended goin back to the past. generations were supposed to be the aftermath, not the history. or if what your gonna do is tell how those “old heroes” (like hiro’s dad and the rest) worked together. if that’s it, then the heroes we knew were the generation. but still, i was somehow disappointed by how the 1st volume ended. peter can put himself up flying and boom in the sky, nathan didn’t have to die. and where is sylar? made himself liquid and stayed alive? how was that possible? he even saw his own future, he saw it in his eyes. now what im thinkin is, will the 2nd volume be something to look up to or just something for us to see? we want to know how the future’s gonna look now. if there’s no way of seeing it, then hiro’s time travel to change the future was good for nothin…:)
heroes juhuu
sylar stinks!! but he`s dead now so §°#£ it.
does someone know when season 2 is on?
hiro rocks
Issac also paints the past remeber with hiro fighting that dragon????? and he had that sword in the drawing