Spoiler - Written by Infelt on Wednesday, December 5, 2007 12:51 - 216 Comments
Volume 2: what changed. Volume 3: what’s next.
As most of us know, Volume 2 was heavily criticized by the fans and Tim Kring even apologized vowing to make the end of Volume 2 better and promised that Volume 3 will be even better. Thus, leading to script re-writes and also a alternate ending because of the strike allowing for Sylar to return.
What was Changed During Volume 2:
NOTE: These changes occurred for various reasons1) Kristen Bell was originally suppose to be in 8 episodes and then killed off but due to fan support they are keeping her around for a bit longer
2) Elle was setup as a Bob’s step daughter and the daughter of Meredith which in turn would have been Claire’s SISTER but they dropped it due to lack of storyline and plot holes.
3) Stephen Tobolowsky (Bob) also had a slightly different story, he was supposed to be more evil then he is now and even recruited his SON WEST to make Claire turn against her father this was dropped early in Volume 2 for “various reasons”.
Wow, so Claire was going to be Elle’s sister as Kristen Bell almost leaked when she was signed on to the cast and I never saw that West would be Bob’s Son, but it did feel like he was sent to watch Claire early on. Also, it did feel like Bob was planned to be this big EVIL character and then they backed off.
Ok now for what many of you want to know….the current direction for Vol. 3…please keep in mind nothing has been written and all of this is the “current” plan the writers have for the show. There is plenty of things that can change between now and well….whenever the show returns.
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The Current Plan for Volume 3:
1) Ali Larter will return to the show (as Kristin at E!Online has already reported) but are planning to wrap up her storyline up in Volume 3. (editor’s note: Also, there are rumors floating around that Ali Larter’s evil alter ego Jessica will be a part of the Volume and not Niki.)
2) Micah’s storyline will end also
3) David Anders (Adam) will return and will meet a new friend
4) Adrian Pasdar (Nathan) well thats it up to the fans and he “might be back so don’t worry.”
5) Zachary Quinto (Sylar) will be more bad ass then ever and when we come back he will kill a star on the show
6) Villains is the start of something bigger for Heroes and hopefully it will be more fast pace then Generations (Volume 2).
or of darker storylines for the Superhero genre so it is good to hear that Adam and Sylar will be back terrorizing the Heroes.
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Annie
Brandon
Volume 2 didn’t have a problem with not being fast paced enough. it had a problem with horrible story telling. i was a RABID fan of season 1. i STRONGLY cared about the characters and how their stories would develop. this year, it seemed like nothing but short sited plots and people that couldn’t die. if it aint broke, don’t fix it TIM! BRING BACK SEASON 1’s style! Make volume 3 a WHOLE SEASON, so you have time to build and grow your characters!
JohnnoshArk
I personally loved season 2, thought it was better than season 1. I would love to see Adam, Jessica and Sylar form a team. When they say sylar will kill a star, I have a feeling it will be Hiro, with the ability to stop time and go to the past sylar could prevent adam being burried alive, nicki gaining control over jessica and the whole event at kirby plaza, although i would hate to see hiro killed it would make an awesome season. And everyone is saying that noone ever stays dead in heroes….how about isaac, he isnt back, I kinda wish they didnt kill him he was awesome
clipse
Save Nathan Save the Show
Eric
What about the Irish Gangster with Powers? Could he be the shooter? Is that supposed to be the guy that Caitlan’s brother worked for? At the beginning of Season 2 they said they hired a guy to play him, I forgot his name.
I love the show so much, I get upset when I see week episodes. Or when they seem rushed. I felt that some of the plot lines were a little week and unrealistic. For me, it’s the little things that can have a show make me say “this could really happen” or “this IS really happening”. For example…
1) Bob’s Office/The Company I know they wanted to give the impression that Bob and the company have been around for many years, but if some of these people (with powers) are as dangerous as they say…then why are all the files of the people they have been tracking left unlocked and out in the open? Where is all the security? Shouldn’t it have more of a government building feel to it? Bob’s office looks more like what a struggling lawyer would work out of. And the labs downstairs. Shouldn’t we see more doctors? Maybe security guards with guns? By the time you pass through the paper factory and make it downstairs…all Bets are off. You wouldn’t of made it that far if you didn’t belong…so let it be known…don’t **** around down here! And the prison cells. I can’t believe that they kept a man that has been alive for over 400 years locked up in one of these. These prisons have glass windows, door knobs on the door, and the walls don’t seem very thick. These are people with amazing and sometimes dangerous abilities. You want to keep them locked up right? They should look like the room they used to keep Sylar locked in. It felt like their was no way of getting out of that room. That was realistic.
2)The first episode of Season 2 had Parkman. I love the guy, but wasn’t he shot 4 or 5 times in the chest during the season finale? And then 4 months later he’s completely recovered and working for the NYPD? No one takes 4 or 5 blasts to the chest and walks around with no problems 4 months later. Not even Paris Hilton. And little Molly even said “Don’t die, your my hero”. I’m sure they needed him back on the show right away, but he should be in the hospital. Will Matt Parkman live? How’s his condition? Molly could come visit. He could even fall in and out of consciousness. O Man, Parkman’s in serious condition and then BAM! He shows up at Molly and Dr. S’s house. But how can he be there if he’s sick in a hospital bed? Well, while in a coma, he discovered his powers were growing and that he could talk to people with his thoughts. Even make them do things. It would of been cool to see him take care of business from a hospital bed with his mind. That’s how he would still be in the show as a healthy person. Projecting himself into people’s thoughts and dreams. Stealing information and sharing it with the good. To me, something like this would of made more since after being shot 4 or 5 times in the chest.
3)When Peter was found by the Irish boys, they demanded to know what he had done with all the I-Pods. But when The Haitian locked him in…no I-pods or even boxes were to be seen. It’s small flaws in the story like that that bug me.
4)A f***ing nuclear bomb went off above New York city and no one is talking about it? During the season premier, they should of made a reference to that. If a nuke went off above NYC in real life…we would be talking about it for months. Even if they cut to someone reading the paper and the headline said “Mysterious Explosion Above NY Still A Mystery” that would of been enough. The character could of then set the paper down after the image sunk in to the viewers mind and went on to say whatever his or her character was supposed to say.
Don’t get me wrong. I love the show and what they have done with these characters, but some things could be stronger and MORE REALISTIC!!!! I care about you all!
Tanner
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I hope Nathan survives… Doesn’t look likely though.
Now who shot him? My guess would be maybe HRG or Future Hiro?
Kevin
The ending was an interesting type of cliffhanger in my opinion. The “killing” or the fall of Nathan had the look or appearance of the Robert Kennedy assassination. At the end my main question that I am intrigued about is who exactly was Angela Petrelli talking to? She is so badass and gutless in regards to allowing her sons to be killed. She either has a lot of confidence in their respective powers or just nonchalant, evil, and shady - perfect characteristics for being a major member of the “company”. Both volumes so far have shown Angela Petrelli showing different “shades” of emotion for her sons as necessary steps “for the greater good?” - can’t accurately call them sacrifices. Anyway, I enjoyed the twists and turns that this 2nd volume consisted with considering the well-known circumstances (didn’t get a fair shake due to the well-known writer’s strike) to fully develop.
alfonso
in heroes if you want to kill a char, peter or sylar must take his power first (DL - Isaak - Ted “nuclear man”)
i dont think peters blood can heal others, he needs to tell his body to heal, but his power its to replicate others powers.
its more probable that claire gives her blood to her bio dad, it was broadcast by news tv channels, so she must be able to see it
and she knows that her blood can heal people and even bring the dead back.
i really hope adam doesnt comeback, he was so boring
Sylar its not the kind of guys who team up, and besides if he discovers adam he WILL take his power, thats all he ever wanted celular regeneration.
ostilad
Here here HeroesFan110,
When a character is killed they should sometimes remain killed. This whole Killed… NOT! attitude is no fun.
I wouldn’t want Nathan to go. He represents the political side of Heroes. Good behavior and all.
Nikki on the other hand seems to have lost purpose in the show. I hope Volume 3 will bring the old remaining Heroes together or in the foreground. Matt, Peter, Hiro, Sylar, Nathan. The many characters in volume 2 took away their presence. The presence of Maja and Alejandro didn’t really amount to anything I think. I would have loved to have seen Peter and Sylar get it on. But Peter would need a drive. Bring back Caitlin and have Sylar kill her in order to get at Peter.
There’s 2 Heroes that Sylar can’t beat- Matt and Peter.
As much as I appreciate the writers in giving th fans what they like, I think they should sometimes satisfy our desires by sticking to their original plans.
steven
I think it would be cool if Adam or Sylar end up becoming a pseudo good guy in the show. Where an evil so sinister shows up and either Adam has to team up with Hiro or Sylar has to team up with Peter to stop it. I think of those groups because they are polar opposites. Adam and Hiro makes more sense. But after that evil is defeated theres always the chance that the old bad guy turns bad again. Kind of like a Magneto theory.
I really hope Nathan comes back because he was a great plot developer. I’m getting tired of Claire’s overabundance in the plot lines. Yea she’s cute and all but all she ever does is whine.
As for Sylar killing off a main charachter in the beginning of the next season I can’t really think of who it would be. The only really useful power he could take that he doesn’t already have is either Claire’s (not going to happen as she’s too much of a major charachter), Molly’s (so he can locate all the heroes whenever he wanted to), or the Haitian (so he can stop the powers of others). All of which though would make him unbeatable really.
the powers sylar still wants: regeneration(peter, claire, adam) and black death(maya)
so now he hashis powers back
what do you think he will do
and did he get the powers that he gained while carying the virus?
Tom Baldwin
The Season definetly started slow, but it ended above average. I wish it would of been a 2 Hour Finale.
I am still not sure the Relevance of Mya and Alejandro in the storyline. I am sure one of the new Villains we will see is the Water Vampire from the online comic. I think the Heroes will dig adam up when they need him. Since he has lived for 400 years I am sure he has some value. Maybe, there is someone worse. Kind of like when Superman and Lex Luther teamed up to fight that Blue Villain.
If they don’t change Sylar’s story, it will definetly get boring. It would be good if they introduced some conflict other than Sylar’s quest to get power. We saw it in the first season when he found out that he was going to blow up the city.
I still enjoy The 4400 better that the Heroes franchise.
DeadGauge
Adam would have to have a bloody good reason to have Sylar work with him. Sylar doesn’t give a rats about anyone except himself. I’m hoping that in this season he takes someone’s powers casually, but like finds out the curses which may come with some powers, and begins to regret being special. (Example: It would have to be something really bad like make him sustain any amount of damage, but his skin rots or something like that. Like a walking corpse. Then through that curse he begins to see the error of his ways, and possibly becomes a hero.) Perhaps Nathans killer could be ‘Evan’ from the online novels, who has lasted through the ages through his ability of cloning. Or Claude could have ties to Angel as the Haitian has ties to her, and killed her son as a favour. And in reference to ‘Pandora’s box’ she is referring to Peter who has links to heaps of abilities, which are each deadly in their own right. I’d like to see a more patriotic Villain, and a team with him also. Like a fine way to show Villains, is show how the Villains unite together and begin to cause trouble, and how the heroes realise that exposing themselves wont do much but hurt themselves, but uniting together could help change the world as long as they focus on the same goal of keeping the peace.
Omid
I’m just wondering how the hell someone manages to shoot someone in a police station and then just walk out afterwards…
boooo
“Omid says:
December 6th, 2007 at 3:37 am
I’m just wondering how the hell someone manages to shoot someone in a police station and then just walk out afterwards…”
someone with…………..POWERS!!!!!!!!!!!
siva
Looks like Sylar and Adam might be teaming up…to take down the company? Both have similar reasons; for revenge. Adam has killed basically all of the original founders but theres still bob and angela petrelli. Sylar might actually kill elle or bob, because mohinder did tell him that the company injected him with the virus..so he’d definitely try to take them down. Adam will probably persuade him to join forces in return sylar will have the chance to kill other ‘heroes’ and acquire their abilities. i’d like to see sylar using the power of illusion too..hopefully he managed to retain that while with the virus. As for the heroes star that he might kill its either Peter,Claire,Hiro or Matt. Unlikely to be peter as he is like sylar’s equal like Neo and Agent Smith. Hopefully volume 3 returns ASAP. GO SYLAR!
angelica
i love season 2 finale but i felt that because of the decrease episode in volume 2 it looks like to me that there are more interesting and exciting episode in volume 1…….well over all the finale was great…. Adam he deserved to be stuck in a coffin… i hope Maya kick sylar’s ass bad for fooling her also for shooting her and killing her brother….i hope nathan and jessica will come back and im pretty excited to what will be the plot or story line next volume………. i have a good guess who killed nathan!!!!!!!!! _ _ _ _…..
wtv.
OMG! season 2 was okay but season 1 was soooooooo much better. i hope season 3 will be great. becuz of that stupid writers strike the whole show is like ruined. the director definetly need to add more suspence and SOOOOOOOO much more powers. like all we see is really simple effects. Such as maya’s? wtf. i was expecting like a really dramatic effect for it and all she does is cry with black tears. And DON’T be MAD but its getting reallllllllly annoying that sylar keeps coming back. Sooner or later he’s gonna be so strong, then Tim Kring will have to make all this SUDDEN POWER OF peter’s then make him kill sylar. IT’s GETTING so lame of sylar.
SORRY to his fans. Moreover, i totally don’t think ADAM will gang up with SYLAR, becuz sylar will want his ability and ADAM ain’t dumb so NO. i hated alejarndo, he is taking space in heroes. HE have LIKE no POWERS like atleast give him something more then just HELPING his sister. ELLLLLLLLE no I LOVE HER she should stay.
I don’t get why is there like all this FUSS about nathan dying, i mean think about it, he’s cool but he did nothing in this season that have something to do with the story line. Claire’s power is getting like weaker, at the FIRST season we see her getting split open and jumping off buildings but like now all we see is like little cuts.
ONE BIG question that the show never explains, if both parents have power then the kids will have power? so if one kid have powers ALL the other kid in the same family will have powers? cuz MONICA has a power so shouldn’t the cousin have one and so should the NANA get one? MONICA ability needs to be express more, PLUS it didn’t made sense when she was SO EASILY beaten up by few stupid gansters, because i don’t believe that BOB’s ipod have NO videos on fighting.
NIKI, well she’s dead or not i LIKE HER. but if she’s still alive the director should really start THINKING. LIKE HE IS NOT SHOWING ENOUGH POWERS. and its really getting dull with no powers. AND can we stop having more bad characters and start thinking about GOOD CHARACTERs with GOOD ability. i mean MONICA’s ABILITY is like the only one that’s WICKED. but non others. they should start thinking COOL abilities like rrgh, contorling air or gravity or WHATEVER. but no more ORDINARY powers like claire’s or telepathy.
i think, the police man is like going to bad guy soon, NOT ENOUGH MOLLY!
basically this season is only watchable but compared to the last season its totaly shit.
Kimmy
What happened when Peter destroyed the virus? I thought it looked like it went into his hands, so does that mean he’l lose his powers? God I hope not! Peter is a legend!
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